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#1 02/04/2007 2:47 am

ottodv
Cuttlefish. Just browsing.
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

I can hack your Lens

I can hack any Lens on Squidoo. I have been able to do this for the last 31 hours. I immediately tried to contact Squidoo but it hasn't worked. I am new to Squidoo and just discovered this forum, and figure that it may help if I make it known here.

For obvious reasons I am not disclosing how I can do it, but if you don't believe me just give me permission to hack your Lens, (post your Lens URL here for all to see): http://www.7is7.com/software/hacks/squidoo_exploit.html

And if any Squidoo staff is reading this, read the bug report, that I submitted through your online form.

Last edited by ottodv (02/04/2007 2:50 am)


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#2 02/04/2007 3:00 am

RickPhillips
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From: georgia
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 1147

Re: I can hack your Lens

Is someone on this? Since I've been hacked in the past; I know that it is possible.


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#3 02/04/2007 10:03 am

ChouDoufu
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From: Taiwan
Registered: 05/01/2006
Posts: 329

Re: I can hack your Lens

So, is ottodv for real?  I'm surprised that Squidoo has not responded to this.


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#4 02/04/2007 10:11 am

ottodv
Cuttlefish. Just browsing.
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

Try me.
Tell me your lens and I will make the modification as I describe it in the link I posted.

Don't worry, I won't do anything bad to your Lens.

ps. I am surprised too I haven't heard or seen any reaction so far.

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#5 02/04/2007 10:58 am

zuzanna
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From: Victoria, BC, Canada
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 182

Re: I can hack your Lens

I wonder if what I describe in my latest post - "What's new in Squidoo's Top 100?" - on my "Mastering Squidoo" blog is the result of the hacker being in action...

What I noticed yesterday (and there is no change today - I see) that 3 lenses in Top 100 have different look - they are narrower, the Adsense lenses have background and the Adsense ad in the sidebar is missing!


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#6 02/04/2007 11:11 am

ottodv
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

zuzanna wrote:

I wonder if what I describe in my latest post - "What's new in Squidoo's Top 100?" - on my "Mastering Squidoo" blog is the result of the hacker being in action...

If you are referring to me as "the hacker" than the answer to your question is, no. Since I haven't touched anybody's lens without their permission. Even though I could.

However, I cannot exclude that others may have discovered the same exploit. This is precisely why I would like to have this gaping security hole fixed asap.


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#7 02/04/2007 12:02 pm

relache
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From: Seattle, WA
Registered: 04/10/2006
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Re: I can hack your Lens

zuzanna wrote:

I wonder if what I describe in my latest post - "What's new in Squidoo's Top 100?" - on my "Mastering Squidoo" blog is the result of the hacker being in action...

What I noticed yesterday (and there is no change today - I see) that 3 lenses in Top 100 have different look - they are narrower, the Adsense lenses have background and the Adsense ad in the sidebar is missing!

Ilona,

What you are freaking out over is the layout difference between a lens set for "Min" and a lens set for "Max" in the Squidoo dashboard.  Try the two different settings on some of your own lenses, go view what they look like published and you'll see the variation.


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#8 02/04/2007 1:06 pm

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 1934

Re: I can hack your Lens

We have received your bug report and will get to it as soon as possible.

Thanks,
Gil

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#9 02/04/2007 1:15 pm

Margaret_Schaut
Citizen Squid

Citizen Squid

From: Michigan
Registered: 09/06/2006
Posts: 2387

Re: I can hack your Lens

If he can do it there are lots others who can too.

Are there any security precautions we can take ourselves while Gil fixes this?

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#10 02/04/2007 1:37 pm

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 1934

Re: I can hack your Lens

This bug has now been fixed. Otto, since you did not supply a valid email address in your bug report I am unable to respond there. Thanks for letting us know about it.

Gil

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#11 02/04/2007 1:37 pm

ottodv
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

Thanks Gil,
Feel free to e-mail me if I can be of any assistence.


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#12 02/04/2007 1:40 pm

ottodv
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

Great news, I verified it and it indeed no longer works.
Thanks for fixing it!

I thought I did supply a valid e-mail. Otherwise you can use the one attached to my squido account or the one on the page I linked in my first mail.


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#13 02/04/2007 3:06 pm

ottodv
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

Some people have sent me worried e-mails, so I would like to make a short statement:

I am sorry if my report made anybody worry about their lenses. If you are worried remember it was only intended to get the attention of staff so that the problem would be fixed, because just like everybody here I want my lens (and hopefully future lenses) to be safe from interference by others. And that has now been achieved.

I have full confidence that staff has now fixed the problem, if I didn't I wouldn't continue to use the service myself.


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#14 02/04/2007 3:13 pm

N376
Citizen Squid Alumni

From: Si'mybio
Registered: 06/23/2006
Posts: 6165

Re: I can hack your Lens

zuzanna wrote:

I wonder if what I describe in my latest post - "What's new in Squidoo's Top 100?" - on my "Mastering Squidoo" blog is the result of the hacker being in action...

What I noticed yesterday (and there is no change today - I see) that 3 lenses in Top 100 have different look - they are narrower, the Adsense lenses have background and the Adsense ad in the sidebar is missing!

As Relache pointed out the 'hacking' you are referring to is an unticked "Max My Lens" box.

In any case Ottodv is saying he can log in as any Squidoo User. And edit modules. There's no mention here or at his page that he can do anything to the layout and Adsense ads (other then also untick the Max My Lens box).

Perhaps you should change the name of your blog from "Mastering Squidoo" to "Squidoo Conspiracy Theories".

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#15 02/04/2007 4:40 pm

Margaret_Schaut
Citizen Squid

Citizen Squid

From: Michigan
Registered: 09/06/2006
Posts: 2387

Re: I can hack your Lens

N, I really don't understand why you are continually rude.  Zuzanna is doing the best she can to  understand what is going on.  Not everyone here, including you,  understands the inner workings of the  alogrithms as Gil does.   If he spent all his time explaining those things to us, he wouldn't have time to fix hackers and chase down spammers. 

If you don't like the contributions Zuza has to make in the lounge, at least you can ignore them.   I request that you apologize to her.   There is no need for her to answer to you for anything.

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#16 02/04/2007 6:53 pm

N376
Citizen Squid Alumni

From: Si'mybio
Registered: 06/23/2006
Posts: 6165

Re: I can hack your Lens

Margaret_Schaut wrote:

N, I really don't understand why you are continually rude.  Zuzanna is doing the best she can to  understand what is going on.  Not everyone here, including you,  understands the inner workings of the  alogrithms as Gil does.   If he spent all his time explaining those things to us, he wouldn't have time to fix hackers and chase down spammers. 

If you don't like the contributions Zuza has to make in the lounge, at least you can ignore them.   I request that you apologize to her.   There is no need for her to answer to you for anything.

Continually rude?

Last time I got called out for being rude it was also blogged about. And it was because I didn't understand how or why Amish kids were on the internet.

Speculation is fine. But parading sensationalism as fact isn't going to help anyone. Especially not newbs.

I'm unsure how healthy it is to be continually venting about other people on a blog that is linked from this forum.

In one posting Jeff "looked quite annonyed". I had seen the exchange in the Squidu thread and in my opinion Jeff offered advice. Zuzanna's interpretation somehow had emotion attached.

Though I might detect sarcasm when she asks "did I disturbed his slumber?"?

Orthia, jeffryv and myself were all accused of "attacking lensmaster Margaret and me too for our stand against violation of the TOS by at least one adult lensmaster". When in fact first and foremost we disagreed with Zuzanna's suggestion that all the mature lenses had gone.

There seems to be two sets of rules here at Squidoo. That which you wish to be applied to you and Zuzanna and that which is what the rest of us should be doing.

If I don't like someones contribution I can ignore them or I can offer my own opinion. You obviously didn't ignore my post, which is well within your right.

If it's okay for Zuzanna to ask questions why is it that "There is no need for her to answer to you for anything"? (Not that I actually asked her anything). You also got touchy on Zuzanna's behalf when she asked which bit didn't she understand by Relache.

And Margaret you can ask for an apology on Zuzanna's behalf, but I reserve the right to refuse it.

I'll take a guess and say the bit you have issue with is when I said "Perhaps you should change the name of your blog from "Mastering Squidoo" to "Squidoo Conspiracy Theories"."

After reading about Citizen Squids being guaranteed a place in the Top 100 and other misinterpretations of peoples motives and wild speculations I don't see a need to apologise for my opinion.

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#17 02/04/2007 6:57 pm

ottodv
Cuttlefish. Just browsing.
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

Now that the security issue has been resolved, I can safely publish the whole story for those who are interested, including the details on how it worked: http://www.7is7.com/software/hacks/squidoo_exploit.html

You will see how incredibly simple it was and that it was quite likely that someone else would discover it soon... sorry that it's a bit long.

I am off to working on my next lens.


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#18 02/04/2007 7:05 pm

N376
Citizen Squid Alumni

From: Si'mybio
Registered: 06/23/2006
Posts: 6165

Re: I can hack your Lens

ottodv wrote:

Now that the security issue has been resolved, I can safely publish the whole story for those who are interested, including the details on how it worked: http://www.7is7.com/software/hacks/squidoo_exploit.html

You will see how incredibly simple it was and that it was quite likely that someone else would discover it soon... sorry that it's a bit long.

I am off to working on my next lens.

I read your page before and have just read the updates.

I for one wish to thank you. Also to the extent you went to contact Squidoo Support and your unrelenting goal to have this serious flaw fixed.

I wasn't sure what to make of what you said when I first saw this thread, so I didn't respond.

It's good to see that there are people like you in the world. Not just technically minded to try it, but seeing an opportunity and taking creative advantage of it. But using that for good and not evil.

I look forward to seeing your lens portfolio grow and also see you here in the squidu forum as an active contributing member. Please :)

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#19 02/04/2007 7:13 pm

JaZilla
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From: Appalachia
Registered: 03/27/2006
Posts: 98

Re: I can hack your Lens

N376 wrote:

Continually rude?

Well, yeah, you do come off that way a lot of the time, even if you don't mean to. When I posted asking for the ability to use forms, and you replied "iframes. Then add tables and forms to your target page." I felt condescended to, and definitely irritated that my thread had been hijacked with an answer that didn't address the real issue.
But, no grudges, at least you didn't critique my writing skills when I posted that I'd been published...
THAT was so rude that I just deleted the whole dern thread!


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#20 02/04/2007 7:26 pm

N376
Citizen Squid Alumni

From: Si'mybio
Registered: 06/23/2006
Posts: 6165

Re: I can hack your Lens

JaZilla wrote:

N376 wrote:

Continually rude?

Well, yeah, you do come off that way a lot of the time, even if you don't mean to. When I posted asking for the ability to use forms, and you replied "iframes. Then add tables and forms to your target page." I felt condescended to, and definitely irritated that my thread had been hijacked with an answer that didn't address the real issue.
But, no grudges, at least you didn't critique my writing skills when I posted that I'd been published...
THAT was so rude that I just deleted the whole dern thread!

So "iframes. Then add tables and forms to your target page"  wasn't an answer?

If you could put a link to the thread in question so people can also see your reply, and then my subsequent response.

I don't see how an on-topic response could be regarded a threadjacking. But hey, you're entitled to an opinion.

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#21 02/04/2007 7:28 pm

ottodv
Cuttlefish. Just browsing.
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

Thanks N376 for your kind comments (I mean the ones addressed to me).

To everybody, please don't fight in this thread, it was created to discuss a security issue.


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#22 02/04/2007 7:31 pm

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From: www.SquidooCool.com
Registered: 04/18/2006
Posts: 1706

Re: I can hack your Lens

N376 - I don't think you're rude!

I think Squidoo loves you smile


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#23 02/04/2007 7:38 pm

dinodino
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 867

Re: I can hack your Lens

Wow, missed the excitement...

Anyway, thanks ottodv for the heads up and Gil for the response.

I am feeling much better now.

Thanks again.


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#24 02/04/2007 7:42 pm

ottodv
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 15

Re: I can hack your Lens

How to get a MILLION myspace friends (1,000,000!!)

The most popular person ever on MySpace --> http://namb.la/popular/


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#25 02/05/2007 9:47 am

webseitler
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Registered: 03/02/2006
Posts: 114

Re: I can hack your Lens

zuzanna wrote:

I wonder if what I describe in my latest post - "What's new in Squidoo's Top 100?" - on my "Mastering Squidoo" blog is the result of the hacker being in action...

What I noticed yesterday (and there is no change today - I see) that 3 lenses in Top 100 have different look - they are narrower, the Adsense lenses have background and the Adsense ad in the sidebar is missing!

Yeah, I changed all my lenses to be un-Maxed because I'm sick of the Flickr module always moving on me (should I put in 5 or 7?!). And Travis told me it'd take off some Adsense stuff, too and I was all for the de-cluttering. Sorry to worry everyone. wink

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