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#1 04/23/2009 3:25 pm

Blueage168
Landlubber.
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 23

80 views and not earning at all

hi, I'm trying to figure how to earn from my lens while sharing my work.
I have about 80 views so far but did not earn anything at all. Do you have some tips and pointers on how I can earn on my lenses? Thank you very much.
christine smile

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#2 04/23/2009 4:13 pm

Ramkitten
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From: Flagstaff, AZ
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 3189

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

Hi, Christine....

Take this with a grain of salt, because I'm not a big earner on Squidoo myself.  But I did take a look at your top two lenses, and these are some thoughts that came to me...

First, they're short. Not a lot of content. Your intros are brief--which is fine--and then you have one big block of text and one sales module. On the second lens, the sales module wasn't working. I think it said there were no Ebay auctions that matched the query.

So I'd really work on your content, and also break up those big paragraphs into shorter ones, thus making it easier on the eye and easier to read. If people don't read, I doubt they'll buy either.

Also, module titles like "Great Stuff on Amazon,"  well, they need some work.

Overall, I just didn't see that the lenses would inspire people to buy. And 80 visits isn't really a lot. The percentage of those visitors who will click through and order through a lens--even if it's not exactly the product on that lens but a "cookie" they take with them, so to speak, when they buy a different product--is really, really small. I'd venture to guess that even on the lenses that get thousands of hits each week, the percentage of buyers is ... what? 1%, maybe 5%? I'm guessing, really, but that's what it's been on my other websites.

I did notice from your profile that you hadn't rated or favorited anyone else's lenses yet. That's fine. You're pretty new on Squidoo and busy building lenses. But I strongly suggest looking around. Check out some of the top ten lenses, the LOTD (lens of the day), the top 100. See what those people are doing. That's a great way to learn what works. That doesn't mean those top lenses sell a lot, but they're really well done nonetheless.

Okay, well, I'll quit rambling and let the more experienced sellers answer.

Deb

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#3 04/23/2009 8:26 pm

Greekgeek
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From: Orange County, CA
Registered: 05/04/2007
Posts: 3738

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

One good thing is to ask yourself -- when you're on the web... how often do YOU buy something?
When? Where? Why?

Try to put yourself in a visitor's shoes. First, why would you visit a page like yours, if it weren't yours?
Second, would you stay and read it? Really? Why or why not? What makes you stay on a page?
Third, what makes you click on a link? Really? What kinds of links do you click on, and what do you skip?

As you get more experienced, you'll start to have stats you can track to see what people click on, what they don't. But at first, be your own guinea pig.

And yeah, as Ramkitten says, there's all kinds of help on Squidoo telling people what kinds of lenses make good lenses. If you go to the SquidU Answer Deck, official place for Squidoo help, or the SquidLog, you'll get a lot of great tutorials on how to improve your lenses, get traffic, and make content that's more likely to attract clicks and customers.

Also, you can check what lenses are getting featured as Lens of the Day or the Top Lenses, and think about what it is about those lenses that you like.

You can't take people's content -- it's against the terms of service, and copied content from a successful lens will get spotted pretty quick! But if you can really take a hard look at those lenses... maybe even write down, "What are three things this lens did that I like?" you will start to learn techniques that you can use to show off your own, original content... which is the one thing YOU have that no one else does. smile

Note that Squidoo payouts start two months after a lens is first built. That's to allow for the 45 day return policy on Amazon and other affiliates. So you're not going to see money yet anyway,though you should see money in the "Royalties" column if anyone buys anything from your Amazon module.

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#4 04/24/2009 3:45 am

thewishpearl
Full fledged kraken (500+ posts)
From: Montreal, Canada
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 536

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

Hi,  I am fairly new as well and still in the learning curve. I also noticed that the stuff you posted for sale thru the ebay and amazon modules are not at all related to your lens topic. I agree with ramkitten and greekgeek about the paragraphs being too long, people tend to stay longer on a page that is visually appealing and easy to read.

Also,  you can maybe treat a lens like storytelling, having a beginning, middle and an end, and perhaps describe what inspired you to write on those topics so your audience can get to know you a bit better.

Maybe you can expand a bit more on your bio ,if you like

Just thought I would put in my two cents.

Welcome to Squidoo! Hope you stay a while:)

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#5 04/24/2009 3:45 am

jamiew23
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 217

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

There's an ebook you can buy which shows you how to earn on Squidoo http://www.squidoo.com/earnusingsquidoo

Try to get people who are interesting in your lens. You don't want to be attracting the wrong people because they just won't be interested.

For example if you have a PS2 lens you would want people who like PS2 to come to your lens so try advertising on gaming forums.

There's more info on getting traffic in my signature below


Need more Traffic??? Free tips here www.squidoo.com/advertising-your-lens smile
Make a YouTube video really easy to promote your lens here http://www.squidoo.com/lens-on-youtube
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Please rate and comment!!! big_smile

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#6 04/24/2009 3:50 am

RickPhillips
Wow. Over 1000 posts.
From: georgia
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 1301

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

What 80 views and NO sales - OMG.

lol.


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#7 04/24/2009 4:22 am

susannaduffy
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From: Australia
Registered: 09/25/2006
Posts: 4343

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

jamiew23 wrote:

There's an ebook you can buy which shows you how to earn on Squidoo http://www.squidoo.com/earnusingsquidoo

You're selling an ebook about squidoo? And you've been a member  since January 13 this year?

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#8 04/24/2009 4:39 am

thefluffanutta
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From: York, England SquidUtils.com
Registered: 09/04/2006
Posts: 7473

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

susannaduffy wrote:

You're selling an ebook about squidoo? And you've been a member  since January 13 this year?

It's not his eBook - it's just one he's selling as an affiliate

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#9 04/24/2009 4:51 am

susannaduffy
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From: Australia
Registered: 09/25/2006
Posts: 4343

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

Whose is it?
oh never mind ...  it's not important smile

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#10 04/24/2009 5:01 am

fanfreluche
Got yer sea legs
Registered: 03/23/2007
Posts: 97

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

On your lens about beauty and health (http://www.squidoo.com/blueage168) you have an empty ebay module because the search strand you provided is not correct. If you want the module to show  both gucci handbags and samsung monitors (not sure how it is related to your lens anyway) you should use this correct strand including the brakets ("gucci handbags", "samsung monitors"). Right now, your ebay module return an error: No live auctions for "gucci handbags, samsung monitors" right this second. Come back later!

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#11 04/24/2009 9:05 am

KimberlyDawnWells
Squidoo's Community and Charity Organizer
Registered: 06/14/2006
Posts: 1645

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

Moving this to Critique Me so you can get more helpful ideas!


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#12 04/24/2009 9:47 am

likeapenguin
Got yer sea legs
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 81

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

I would suggest dividing your content so that it is more visually pleasing for your viewers. This will make it easier to read and ensure that people stay on your pages longer. Take advantage of html for your lenses to help divide the content and add visual interest. I found this lens on html very helpful when I made my first lens: http://www.squidoo.com/advancedhtml

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#13 04/24/2009 10:08 am

The_Party_Animal
Full fledged kraken (500+ posts)
Registered: 08/10/2007
Posts: 739

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

I would add more content to your lenses and make the products relevant to your subject. I looked at Charlotte's web - for one be careful your intro is not in your own words and the products do not go with the topic.

It takes time - I would suggest looking at some of the other money making lenses on squidoo for ideas. Check out some of mine. Good luck and keep working at it - it will come, but it does not happen over night.

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#14 04/24/2009 10:09 am

Chadrew
Wow. Over 1000 posts.
From: Lithuania
Registered: 03/11/2007
Posts: 1442

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

80 views and no sales is quite normal. Even if you had the best lens ever, 80 views with no ad clicks or sales wouldn't be that surprising. And, like Greekgeek explained, Squidoo sends out the ad pool payouts 2 months after the lens was created, anyway. You won't even see any earnings (except if you make sales) for 2 months after the lens creation.

Last edited by Chadrew (04/24/2009 10:11 am)

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#15 04/24/2009 10:29 am

Cinetech
Wow. Over 1000 posts.
From: Montreal
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 1489

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

likeapenguin wrote:

I would suggest dividing your content so that it is more visually pleasing for your viewers. This will make it easier to read and ensure that people stay on your pages longer.

Hey where did you read that? wink
I agree with likeapenguin, traffic doesn't translate directly into sales.
You must engage people with your lens and make stick around for a while in order
to have sales conversion.

Btw, go check likeapenguin's lenses, they're iuch great examples of what a lens should look like.

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#16 04/24/2009 11:29 am

likeapenguin
Got yer sea legs
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 81

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

Cinetech wrote:

Hey where did you read that? wink
I agree with likeapenguin, traffic doesn't translate directly into sales.
You must engage people with your lens and make stick around for a while in order
to have sales conversion.

Btw, go check likeapenguin's lenses, they're iuch great examples of what a lens should look like.

WOW! Thank you for the compliment! That MADE my day smile

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#17 04/24/2009 12:44 pm

MobyD
Wow. Over 1000 posts.
From: Portland, OR
Registered: 10/19/2007
Posts: 1425

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

As others have mentioned, 80 overall views with no sales is not at all unusual. You may need hundreds, if not thousands,  to get any sales.

In the case of your lenses, though, the products in your Amazon, eBay, etc. modules are not related to the topics of your lenses. It will be very unusual to see any sales with this approach. It looks like you started off with a lens template that includes all sorts of lens templates for selling products.. You seem to feel you're obligated to put something in them whether or not they are related to your topic. You don't have to do that. Just delete any module that doesn't add to the topic of your lens. An eBay module populated with cell phones on a lens about a classic children's story is not going to result in much in the way of sales action even if the lens gets very popular. If there's nothing on eBay related to your lens topic, delete the module. Use the Amazon module to promote related items. By promoting unrelated Amazon items, you're wasting an opportunity to sell something to people who are interested in your topic. Netflix and Orbitz modules don't fit the topics you've chosen, so they're just wasting space and a viewer's time.

In your lens about Charlotte's Web there should be a link to the book on Amazon, but I don't see one. Squidoo has an Amazon Spotlight module that would be perfect for the lens if you aim to direct people to Amazon. Squidoo makes a commission from book sales, and half that commission is shared with you, the referring lensmaster.

Your lens titles certainly need improvement. "All Time Favorite Book" might get the occasional viewer, but it could be any book on any subject in the world. A title like "Charlotte's Web - A Classic Children's Story" is much more to the point. Lens titles like "Gardening" and "Perennial" are also pretty general and unlikely to spark much interest.

You do not need to spend money on an ebook to learn how to make effective lenses on Squidoo. You can find answers in The Answer Deck, by keeping an eye on the forums here at SquidU and by searching for lenses on topics you like to see how other lensmasters have put together high-ranking lenses on those topics. When you use the Squidoo search, you'll see the lensrank of lenses that come up. You'll also find many helpful lenses in the Squidoo Tips category.

Last edited by MobyD (04/26/2009 9:19 am)

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#18 04/24/2009 6:47 pm

chicandsavvy
Got yer sea legs
From: Oklahoma
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 42

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

HI,

I hope you're not discouraged. I'm going to skip past any problems that might be occurring with lenses. I'm pretty new and haven't earned anything, but I'm not stressing because my earnings go to charity. Ask yourself some important but silly questions?

Are you having fun?
Do you want to keep doing this for a long time?
Are you interested in internet marketing/internet presence?
Are you making friends?
Would you do this if you didn't need the money?

Okay, maybe you didn't say yes to everything, but this is not a perfect world. The main thing is:
Are you having fun?

If that one isn't a huge bold print underlined  YES, maybe think about how to get back to having fun.

Learning all the other stuff will happen in time. Tons of stuff like MySpace and Facebook and Twitter and Zazzle. There's just so much fun to be had. I hope this helps a little. Try not to be overwhelmed because as long as it's fun, it's worth it. And success is an added perk that's destined to happen.

Stay cool. cool

Sincerely,
chicandsavvy, aka Karla Bourque


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#19 04/24/2009 6:50 pm

Ramkitten
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From: Flagstaff, AZ
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 3189

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#20 04/24/2009 7:06 pm

thewishpearl
Full fledged kraken (500+ posts)
From: Montreal, Canada
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 536

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

I agree, the best part of Squidoo are the people, makes it more fun to learn,  it's nice to come home from a days work ( in my case at an airport dealing with irate passengers all the time) and then sitting down to Squidoo. My day ends peacefully.

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#21 04/24/2009 8:59 pm

CherylK
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From: Minnesota
Registered: 02/03/2008
Posts: 471

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

If I were relying on money earned from my lenses, I'd be up a creek without a paddle, that's for sure.  So far, most everything I've earned has gone to charity which is just fine with me...some day I'd like a few bucks but for now I'm just hoping people find my information useful.  I try to create lenses with good information.  Plus, I  really enjoy the friendships I've made through Squidoo.


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#22 04/26/2009 12:40 am

Blueage168
Landlubber.
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 23

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

Hi All,

Thank you for all the help and support, I have taken suggestions and implement changes to improve my lenses. Hopefully they are showing progress.

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#23 04/26/2009 2:03 am

Brain_Washer
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From: Singapore
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 30

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

I'm approaching 1000 page views (from all my lenses) and yet to make my first penny. But I'm really enjoying the process of creating the lenses. Somehow, it takes the stress away from my life smile And I'm sure that if I continue to follow my heart and be passionate about my work, people will like it, and sales will happen.

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#24 04/26/2009 3:08 am

AndrewShim
First mate
Registered: 02/22/2007
Posts: 358

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

I came in late to this thread so I won't repeat what everyone has said. I've come to respect GreekGeek, RamKitten and ModyD's views. They ALWAYS give good advice so listen to them (and the other wonderful folk here too).

My first impression when I read your original post was that you somehow heard (or got the impression) that Squidoo is a place to make easy money. It's not. Patience, perseverance and hard work will bring you to that place though.

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#25 04/26/2009 8:22 am

ViolinStudent
Positively aquatic
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 232

Re: 80 views and not earning at all

I hate to sound like an echo, but content is king. Really short lenses along with NOW BUY THIS, probably wouldn't attract my attention. Maybe not even my clicks if I didn't see something that caught my fancy immediately.  Add more content. Spread the content out so that the reader won't say, "Oh, the rest is just trying to get me to buy something." Update. Participate. Be patient.
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