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I was just wondering? My first lens was created on or about Apr. 1 and then the others were created several days apart from each other after that. I know that you usually don't see any kind of blue money box in your dashboard til about 2 months after you create your first lens but is it always 2 months from the date that you published a lens til you see the money or will my first blue box have the money from the 6 I created up til now? The way I think it might work is say I created my 1st lens Apr. 1 then on June 1 I would see that blue money box in the dashboard and any money earned from just that lens? Then, the 2nd lens I publishd say 2 days later, that money would end up in the box 2 days later on June 3 and so on from the 2 month anniversary of when I publish a new lens? Then after that, it's 1 month? Do I have this right? Also, are the affiliate moneys you earn always shown as clickouts from a lenses stats? I've only seen 1 Amazon clickout from my blog lens that might possibly be a sale but all the rest are clickouts to like twitter, squidu, flickr pics and such?
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The best time to make a lens is as soon as you have the idea and have time to do a good job with it.
Payments don't come exactly 2 months from when a lens is first published. There's only one payday a month.
The date varies, but it's normally sometime in the second week of each month. On that day, Squidoo looks back at ALL your lenses that existed two months ago, checks out their average lensrank for that month, and pays accordingly.
For a lens that existed for only part of the month, Squidoo has some way of taking that into account. A lens that was published on, say, the 25th of a month, and jumped right into the top tier (I've seen it happen!) doesn't get top tier payout, since it only existed for a small part of the month. I'm not quite sure how Squidoo adjusts for this, but it does.
That means getting your lenses launched as soon as possible is important: you want to be paid for as many days as possible. (Though publishing days before you get any traffic isn't a good idea, as the first few days your lensrank may be not-very-good).
I often publish a lens before I'm finished working on it to see how it looks (although I don't usually tell people about a lens before it's done). This ensures that each lens is indexed as fast as possible. I will include a "Pardon my dust -- this lens is under construction!" in case people find it before Im done.
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It's practically impossible to get any share of advertising revenue during the first month of a lens life, because of how the average is calculated over a partial month. Even if a lens makes it to #1 for 29 days, it won't earn a penny if it wasn't published on day 1.* Therefore, you don't want to be using up all of your promotion techniques (ratings, angels, stumbles, etc) in that first month as any benefits will fade before the end of the first full month that lens has.
As GreekGeek says, the best time to create a lens is as soon as you create it. In the long run, over the life of a lens, it really doesn't matter if you get paid for the first month or not. A truly great lens will perform continuously...
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GreekGeek has the right idea. The best time to make a lens is when you have a good idea and can do a good job with it. Don't worry about scheduling creation around paydays. Just realize a lens made this month won't see any money on payday until June, possibly later.
Thing long term. Having started on April 1, you're not going to see anything in a blue box until around June 10th, which is a rough estimate of when payday covering April occurs. And don't take "June 10th" literally. It could be a few days sooner, or as late as June 15th. You might not make a whole lot in June - pennies, perhaps - but then there's July, August, September and so on.
Don't expect to get much based solely on lensrank. The real money on Squidoo comes from affiliate sales by using Amazon, eBay and other affiliate modules and by joining affiliate programs (Pepperjam, Clickbank, CD Baby or others) and promoting products in Squidoo lenses (well-done and informative ones, not 15-minute spam lenses).
If you're looking for any commissions you've earned from the affiliates Squidoo has partnered with, such as Amazon, look in your Stats under the Royalties tab. You will not see commissions from other affiliate sites. If you are an Amazon Associate and use links that include your associate ID, those won't show up in Squidoo either; you'll have to check your Amazon Associate account to see that activity.
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Make them when you can be bothered!
If you're not bothered - don't!
how much time have you got? If I had all the time in the world at my disposal, I wouldn't spend it making lenses. I may however make a lens if there was a subject which I was passionate about, that I knew was thoroughly researched, well presented, and know, in my heart of hearts that I did the best job I could, and say to hell with anyone who thinks otherwise!
I wouldn't time the lens to coincide with a payout.
Payout? If you're here for the money then you need time, devotion and conviction. You also need to promote the lens which involves even more time. Unless it's a one-hit wonder then you will need to make scores of top-notch ones to make a few bob.
I believe there are some lensmasters in the top echelons who make several hundred dollars a month, but presumably they either have a midas touch or they are rigorous, expert and devoted workaholics, who more than likely are smart enough not to place all their eggs in the same basket, and have other web-based revenue.
I don't know what the average pay out is, but once you get over the initial two month lead in, it will be regular whatever you create.
I didn't come here to make money, I was drawn to a thriving community of which the ethos has since become clouded by the desire of many to attain unreasonable and unatainable financial returns. The forums are saturated with the concept. This is why many who held to the principle do not venture here very often.
It's horses for courses old bean, and if I expected a return on my investment on the time it took to create a lens, I would not make one at all.
Squidoo can be all things to all men. For some it is the holy grail, for others it is tantamount to gold prospectors panning laboriously for a few nuggets.
For some it is a cash cow. For some it is a life blood of income in a time of recession. For some it is merely the joy of being! Squidoo can be many things to many people. Use it wisely and it will reward you.
The definition of "reward" is entirely your own.
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I agree with Greekgeek also. The best time is when you have the idea and also if you have the time. If I don't have the time, I usually just take down notes and do it later.
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I always start writing my lenses at 5:54am with a hot cup of coffee and a nice bowl of oatmeal. The temperature should be around 4 Celsius and partially cloudy. The humidity is obviously irrelevant.
Everyone said what I wanted to say so I went for giggles. ![]()
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Like everyone else has said, make a lens when the "inspiration" hits you. I usually juggle a few ideas in my head, then, when I'm ready, and have the time. I make it. I didn't come here for the money either. The money is just an added bonus. I'm here because I like to write, and it's just plain fun.
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I write my lenses, including links and code for fonts, boxes, colors, etc. in a simple word processing program like wordpad. I also have all the photos resized and grouped in a folder for that lens. I put them into modules after the daily lensrank update because I hate to have any in WIP because the lensrank is so low. Usually, by the time of the next lens rank update, my lens has been published and publicized on facebook &/or Twitter, lensrolled, and proofed by other people. That way you start out further up the ladder and most of the work is done offline so that the lens design is well planned.
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