I just started in August.  Two of the four lenses I made that month made it into the third tier.

Isn't the second tier 2k to 10K?  I had a lens that averaged about 5000 for August.  It made .08.  And another one that averaged about 47,000.  It made .08.

Last edited by beeobrien (10/06/2008 3:31 pm)

But I thought that 5000 was 2nd tier still.  Must be a difference in the way HQ figures averages and the way fluff's averages work out.

Last edited by beeobrien (10/06/2008 3:32 pm)

Even one that I made on August 1 made it into third tier.

3 out of the 5 I know I definately created in Aug (have to check the dates on some of the others that could have been end july or early sept) received 0.08.   One of these was only created on the 31st though so was never going to get anything for the month, the other................well let's not go there:(

makes sense...thanks

Any lens you start will get it's initial place holder rank of 600,000 (or is it now in the 700,000s?) before the next LR is calculated. I think that would factor in to the average...but I'm not sure.

RichLeigh wrote:

It's statistically impossible to attain anything greater than a third tier payment during the month in which a lens is made! 8 of the 9 I created during that month though did manage to make it into the third tier which I was quite pleased about!

I certainly appreciate that it's unlikely...but where do you get the idea that it is statistically impossible? Of course it is anything but! It is - statistically - possible to make the top tier from anywhere in the first half of the month.

But then again - - you know the old saying: there are lies, damned lies...and statistics!

Christene wrote:

Any lens you start will get it's initial place holder rank of 600,000 (or is it now in the 700,000s?) before the next LR is calculated. I think that would factor in to the average...but I'm not sure.

I understand that, but will it only get that rank if it has that rank during a lensrank update? I've a theory that if it does get published before the  lensrank updates it's first ranking is classed as the start point. I could be wrong here, I remember I have been wrong before! The way I see it the initial 'placeholder' of 700k+ would not be recorded by squidoo, so if in it's initial few hours of publishing it gets a few visits before it's first lensranking, it's possible the first time squidoo records it's ranking it will be in the third tier already.

This maybe a moment for Gil or some other HQ bod to come in and clarify this. Though if it's a grey area, maybe not.

Oh man... now I get it. So it doesn't matter much if on the first month all your lenses are on the 1st and 2nd tier. Factored in is the starting rank which very very big. Then this rank will again be recalculated based on the current overall average lens rank. Oh gee... that means... granting that me lenses stays for a month on 1st and 2nd tier... I'd still get 0.08USD on the next payday. (*collapses) (tries to stand) (*collapses again)... keyboard falls on my head...

Of my lenses created i August 5 of them made third tier, none went higher

RichLeigh wrote:

It's statistically impossible to attain anything greater than a third tier payment during the month in which a lens is made! 8 of the 9 I created during that month though did manage to make it into the third tier which I was quite pleased about!

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, because yes, it is rare, but it does happen and it happened to me: my Lord Sesshomaru Costume lens ( http://www.squidoo.com/LordSesshomaruCostume  ) went to LR 264 less than 7 days after I made it, and has NEVER received less than a top tier payment EVER. Since the day this lens was made it has never gotten less than 50 hits in one day, the highest it got in one day was over 400 hits. It also ranks as #1 on Google's page one for 13 of it's keywords, and in the top 10 on Google's page one for the rest of it's keywords. The answer for this is that it is one of only 2 websites on the entire internet which tell you how to make a Lord Sesshomaru costume. (Granted that lens started out at a 200,000 lensrank, not a 700,000 one too)

In other words if you can find a nich topic with not only no other Squidoo lenses about it, but also no other websites at all about it, you can in fact reach tier one ranking. Plus it helps if you promote you lens directly to all the people looking for it. I went directly to everyone who was planning to make this costume and asked them what info they needed, and than made the lens, and went back and told them about it. I had over 200 visits before it went out of WIP less than 24 hours after it was published.

(Off line, I am a sales rep with 10 years of field work, if theres one thing I know how to do, it's find a product people want and than show the where to find it. Training in costumer service and sales rep, helps with Squidoo lens promotion even more than you could possibly imagine.)

Last edited by EelKat (10/06/2008 8:03 pm)

I have to check for the exact number, but I see a few of them high up on the list. In the past few months, I've been creating tutorials and purely informational lenses that have no money making stuff on them, and they're doing well. I'm actually just on Squidoo for the fun of it at this point, and every time I learn something new, I make a lens about it.