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#1 02/05/2007 9:22 am

Barrie
Swimming pretty (100+ posts!)
From: Portland, Oregon
Registered: 04/15/2006
Posts: 159

tracing trackbacks

Something cool is happening with my Great Disney World Photos lens. I'm hesitant to even mention it because I don't want to stop, but here goes.

In the past 4 or 5 days my lensrank has jumped into the very high numbers. Today it is at #9. I checked my stats to see what might be causing it and found that I am getting a bunch (to me anyway) of trackbacks. Right now I'm at 28.

Here's where I need help... I don't really get how the whole trackback thing works. I get the concept, but not being a blogger I don't have any experience with it. My understanding is that someone has mentioned or linked to my lens and is letting me know that by doing a trackback. Is there any way for me to find out where these mentions are?

I have searched every way I can think of and am not finding anything. Also, lenses used to have a trackback button on the sidebar but that is gone now. So where are the trackback stats coming from?

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#2 02/05/2007 11:29 am

relache
Indubitably tentacular
From: Seattle, WA
Registered: 04/10/2006
Posts: 2390

Re: tracing trackbacks

Barrie,

I'd never paid much attention to trackbacks, having only ever seen a handful at most on the majority of my lenses.  Then I read this post earlier this AM and decided to go seriously hunting through my lens stats.  I've now found one or two of my lenses that really have significant trackback numbers.

Here's the best explanation of Trackbacks that I have found.  According to it, it's links coming from Movable Type blogs, but not Blogger.  Obviously, we are just getting a total aggregate from Squidoo and no actual URL info.


“If the cut of the costume indicates intellect and talent, then the color indicates temper and heart. - Thomas Carlyle

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#3 02/05/2007 12:25 pm

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 1934

Re: tracing trackbacks

Hi Barrie,

I hate to disappoint you, but we're actually in the process of removing trackbacks from our lensrank algorithm. 99.999% of the trackbacks we receive are spam, and we just don't have the resources to manage it. Sorry!

Gil

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#4 02/05/2007 12:42 pm

Barrie
Swimming pretty (100+ posts!)
From: Portland, Oregon
Registered: 04/15/2006
Posts: 159

Re: tracing trackbacks

Oh Gil - You SO burst my bubble! Spam huh - bummer. Well - I'm enjoying the single digit lensrank while I have it!

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#5 02/05/2007 12:53 pm

relache
Indubitably tentacular
From: Seattle, WA
Registered: 04/10/2006
Posts: 2390

Re: tracing trackbacks

Since I'm not a blogger, how DID I get 54 Dragon Tattoo trackbacks?  And why would someone be spamming my lens?


“If the cut of the costume indicates intellect and talent, then the color indicates temper and heart. - Thomas Carlyle

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#6 02/05/2007 2:05 pm

RickPhillips
Wow. Over 1000 posts.
From: georgia
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 1147

Re: tracing trackbacks

Same question - my one Squidoo's Most Profitable has 28 -- why would that be spammed?


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#7 02/05/2007 2:27 pm

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 1934

Re: tracing trackbacks

On blogs, trackbacks are a way to thank someone for linking to your entry. On most blogs, a list of trackbacks (people linking back to a story) are displayed right below the post itself. Which is what motivates spammers to spam them (so a link to their fake trackback will appear - a trackback which actually points to a spam page). On lenses we don't display the trackback links, so it doesn't quite make sense why someone would trackback it. That doesn't stop the spammers though...

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#8 02/05/2007 4:03 pm

daoine
Mesonychoteuthis
From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: 08/17/2006
Posts: 952

Re: tracing trackbacks

Nothing stops the spammers. They waste their time and they waste ours too.

I have a comment form on my website, and of course I get spam comments from idjits not realising that I upload all comments manually. So I put up a security word and filtered all comments that don't include it into Trash. Problem sorted on my end, but when I empty my trash I see just how many people are still wasting time spamming my forms.

I just grin evilly and hope that the greater percentage of those are real spammers wasting real time and not some robot generating random posts.

(And if a legitimate commenter can't be bothered to use the security word that's not my problem. I don't have time to babysit people.)

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#9 02/05/2007 4:04 pm

RickPhillips
Wow. Over 1000 posts.
From: georgia
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 1147

Re: tracing trackbacks

UH, does that answer my or Relache's question?


Alan Guth, Edmund Husserl, `Bucky' Fuller - Real Thinkers

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#10 02/05/2007 4:15 pm

daoine
Mesonychoteuthis
From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: 08/17/2006
Posts: 952

Re: tracing trackbacks

My comment or Gil's?

I think both of us are trying to say that spammers send a lot of stuff out across the board - it works for some sites, so they do the same thing everywhere in the hope that it may work elsewhere. Spamming blogs has worked in the past - they may not realise that Squidoo is not a blog, they may not care, it may be a robot set up to keep spamming regardless. Something about your topic, perhaps, has attracted them to your lens and they're working their system.

I'm really just guessing, since I'm not a spammer tongue , nor am I very technical.

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#11 02/05/2007 9:14 pm

Barrie
Swimming pretty (100+ posts!)
From: Portland, Oregon
Registered: 04/15/2006
Posts: 159

Re: tracing trackbacks

OK - so maybe it is spammers. But I have also seen a 20-25% increase in traffic in the last few days. Is that just a coincidence?

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#12 02/06/2007 4:49 am

thefluffanutta
Citizen Squid Alumni

From: York, England SquidUtils.com
Registered: 09/04/2006
Posts: 5508

Re: tracing trackbacks

Are trackbacks supported in the other direction? I.e. if I add a trackback URI to my Link List, will my lens appear on their blog? It would be really nice if this did work.

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#13 03/31/2007 7:02 am

disneyanne
First mate
Registered: 05/11/2006
Posts: 351

Re: tracing trackbacks

I just discovered -- and figured out how to use -- trackbacks. Does this thread mean that we can ignore the trackback section of the stats report?

Happy day,
Anne

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