You know, we can thank these jerkheaded spammers for so much. Look at all they've brought us:

Wikipedia bans
No-follow implementation
General stupidness

Thanks so much spammers! We love you. May all your food taste like dog food.

Margaret_Schaut wrote:

Jonitas wrote:

"The domain is banned for the following reason: Posting SEO junk (perhaps these are old stories, but I'm rebanning just to make sure it stuck)"

That doesn't say spam, it says 'Posting SEO Junk'.

I wonder how long it will take before this stuff kills us off altogether?

SEO Junk, it's a friendly name to SPAM

Nothing will kill us margaret, the spam it's controlled. There're many other places that you can use for getting links to squidoo, and if the lens it's good, it'll be accepted.
Propeller it's good, but it's just one!!!

For example, today i did a new lens that was indexed by google after 1 hour of being published, and achieved TOP 10 rankings for a couple of high searched keywords. After 4 hours of life of the lens, i have 250 visits so far! All i did was using good backlinks from other places, and i think the lens it's not bad

But this teach me that squidoo it's much better than we think, you just need to create better backlinks. We need to think out of the hat.

Margaret_Schaut wrote:

Squidoo is GREAT, but it is a terrible shame that it is getting harder and harder to get backlinks in places like propeller, wikipedia and other good places.

Backlinks is one of my shortcomings on most of my pages.

It's a shame, but it makes sense why they're doing it.
They don't want to be associated with spam, otherwise God (Google) will penalized them really hard. As you said, great places to have backlinks like Wikipedia, Propeller, Wordpress blogs, etc are have closed or are closing the door to Squidoo.

Btw, I can no longer submit Squidoo pages to StumbleUpon.

I understand what Gil said back in April, and in theory sounds great but:

giltotherescue wrote:

We may not agree with every lens that gets created, and we do our best to curb spam (with your help...thanks!), but we're also not going to exercise quality control the way Hubpages does. Squidoo is a platform for spreading ideas, not a walled garden reference site.

I understand also that exercising quality control means spending a significant amount of money. But we're seeing more and more sites banning Squidoo, because it's harboring just few bad apples.  On the other hand, Squidoo must be losing significant money due to many lenses not getting the traffic that they used to with Google. So what gives?

That is sad. A few months ago I submitted 2 sites and got decent traffic from it.

I was jotting down some notes today and added propeller to my todo list and now this.

Guess no more goodies from propeller.

FYI - there is dropjack.com (not as heavy traffic as propeller but similar function)

There're many places where we can add squidoo links, but i liked propeller, they rank well.

The trick is do a hubpage (you know it must be good), and at the hubpage add the squidoo rss of your lens. Then add the hubpage to propeller. And that's it, we know have a powerful backlink

TBH, I've found that I spend more time on forums than making lenses but I don't really bother with Squidoo as much as I should (that's not a slur on Squidoo, I just have to work lol).

Then again, any lenses I make seem to sustain themselves relatively well so maybe promotion is more key than actual content...

Rock_The_Ice wrote:

TBH, I've found that I spend more time on forums than making lenses but I don't really bother with Squidoo as much as I should (that's not a slur on Squidoo, I just have to work lol).

Then again, any lenses I make seem to sustain themselves relatively well so maybe promotion is more key than actual content...

Content it's important all the times. You can make a big promotion, rank number 1 in google, but if the content it's not what the visitors wants....puffff, the rankings doesn't means nothing.
If your content is ok, then i totally agree, promotion, lots of promotion it's the key

Rock_The_Ice wrote:

JonitasKalimpo wrote:

Rock_The_Ice wrote:

TBH, I've found that I spend more time on forums than making lenses but I don't really bother with Squidoo as much as I should (that's not a slur on Squidoo, I just have to work lol).

Then again, any lenses I make seem to sustain themselves relatively well so maybe promotion is more key than actual content...

Content it's important all the times. You can make a big promotion, rank number 1 in google, but if the content it's not what the visitors wants....puffff, the rankings doesn't means nothing.
If your content is OK, then I totally agree, promotion, lots of promotion it's the key

Well, I'd like to think that my content is good enough!

I try to accommodate the needs of my viewers and if I see a search coming up a lot and I haven't provided the relevant information, I will alter the information to accommodate their needs.

I think though, that even if a lens isn't very contentful (is that a word?!) but well promoted it can achieve a certain amount of exposure which unfortunately is all some people need. =/

That's true, yes, but it's also true for other sites, like wordpress, blogger, hubpages, gather, wikimedia, etc..

Rock_The_Ice wrote:

I know... =/

It's just a sad fact that people would try to game the system in such a way to give them a short-term advantage.

But us good people will have the sustainability to do better in the end. =]

A big truth, rock. If we've patience, in the end, our work will win, since this guys are on the wagon of quick links, not durable links. And durable links, takes time, a loooot of time

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