Lensrank is a performance indicator on recent activity. It doesn't take into account the history of the lens.

The payout is determined on how it performed two months ago.

The performance of your lens last year doesn't determine todays Lensrank.

Unless your 58,000 visits, 50 ratings, sales and 70,000 clickouts happened this week I can't see what point your dashboard has proved or how you've managed to interpret it.

Feeling the pain here too

With all due respect Glen, if the problems of Lens Rank is not corrected by the end of April, our current (and assuming still dropping) lens rank will greatly affect all of us for our royalty payments in June.

So I can see where Rick feels that his work has been worthless, as it will eventually show in his royalties.

edited: to explain a little better; I'm assuming that Rick is seeing his LR for that lens plummet, although he hasn't stated how much. He does give a hint, however; because he stated .08, which would reflect a lens that was either in a LR of above 10,000 for yesterdays payment (March's stats) or he is comparing it's current LR to yesterday's LR cutoffs. Rick chose to portray that lens as being a successful one by stating it's accomplishments.

Gods Love and mine,
Deb

Last edited by flowergardener (04/09/2008 5:36 am)

N376 wrote:

Lensrank is a performance indicator on recent activity. It doesn't take into account the history of the lens.

The payout is determined on how it performed two months ago.

The performance of your lens last year doesn't determine todays Lensrank.

Unless your 58,000 visits, 50 ratings, sales and 70,000 clickouts happened this week I can't see what point your dashboard has proved or how you've managed to interpret it.

One question - I thought lensrank did take account of ratings?  Or is that just ratings in the last two weeks too?

There definately appears to be some sort of bug here now that I look at this again.  However, this bug is actually working in my favor.  With the exception of my top lens dropping like a rock (from #11 to #34 today), I have 25 lenses in the top 2,000.  I can't remember the last time I had that many lenses in the top tier!  Usually I have between 10-15 in this tier.  Not sure what is going on, but it does seem kinda wacky.   Gil and hq are working on it as their top priority so we just need to hang tight.

Janet21 wrote:

There definately appears to be some sort of bug here now that I look at this again.  However, this bug is actually working in my favor.  With the exception of my top lens dropping like a rock (from #11 to #34 today), I have 25 lenses in the top 2,000.

Janet me too
my top lens has dropped lower than i would have hoped (and it's no longer my top lens)...but overall ranks are in my favor...i have 31 in the top 2,000

Last edited by Christene (04/09/2008 5:57 am)

I'm still having the opposite problem.

New lenses that were published during the time of the server shift are staying stuck in the 60,000 range despite new information, angel blessings, traffic and getting 'stars.'

Hopefully this won't be a trend with new lenses.

P.S. I also have more than my normal number of lenses in the top tier.

14 above 1,000
24 above 2,000

P.P.S. bdkz thanks for noting the same problem with new lenses. I hadn't been seeing much addressing new lenses.
Possibly more

I am having similar Lensrank issues but I am new so I don't know if they are problems or just what I should expect. I have published 2 lenses in the last 5 days. Both have got 10+ star ratings and 10ish visits per day but their lens ranks are both 70000 and below. Is this normal?

For those that have not been reading the other threads, here's an overview of the important facts:

Gil says they have not changed how lensrank calculates except for this -

Gil wrote:

The only Lensrank change we've made recently is to slowly decrease the weight of Angel blessings over a period of weeks. This is to make sure that it doesn't become impossible to get into our Top 100 lists without massive amounts of Angel blessings.

Beyond that, I will definitely keep an eye on lensrank to see if there are any larger issues.

After a lot of posts on weird Lensrank issues, Gil posted this -

giltotherescue wrote:

There's definitely something not quite right about lensrank. I'm looking into it ASAP.

This is a response from Squidoo HQ in reply to my bug report on the lensrank dance.

Hello Crystal,

I just chatted with Gil about lensrank and he's working on it today as
his top priority. There are some impacts from our recent server move
that were unexpected, so he is fixing that.

I'm not sure of all the details, but I do know this is his #1 project
right now, so please keep an eye on it and let us know if you don't see
a positive change in the next couple of days.

Thanks again for being so patient!

Blake

Hope that catches everyone up to speed. It is very frustrating, but at least we know Gil is working on it and will hopefully get it straightened out soon.

Crystal_Booth wrote:

For those that have not been reading the other threads, here's an overview of the important facts:

Gil says they have not changed how lensrank calculates except for this -

Gil wrote:

The only Lensrank change we've made recently is to slowly decrease the weight of Angel blessings over a period of weeks. This is to make sure that it doesn't become impossible to get into our Top 100 lists without massive amounts of Angel blessings.

Beyond that, I will definitely keep an eye on lensrank to see if there are any larger issues.

After a lot of posts on weird Lensrank issues, Gil posted this -

giltotherescue wrote:

There's definitely something not quite right about lensrank. I'm looking into it ASAP.

This is a response from Squidoo HQ in reply to my bug report on the lensrank dance.

Hello Crystal,

I just chatted with Gil about lensrank and he's working on it today as
his top priority. There are some impacts from our recent server move
that were unexpected, so he is fixing that.

I'm not sure of all the details, but I do know this is his #1 project
right now, so please keep an eye on it and let us know if you don't see
a positive change in the next couple of days.

Thanks again for being so patient!

Blake

Hope that catches everyone up to speed. It is very frustrating, but at least we know Gil is working on it and will hopefully get it straightened out soon.

Thanks for posting all this, Crystal!

I'll admit I've been quietly freaking out.  OK, I can handle a drop from #1 to #4 - but down to #40 overnight?  I only have 6 lenses, but they have all been pretty regularly in the top 1500.  But 3 are now in the 3000's .. with 2 almost at 4,000.  Yet they still have as much traffic if not more than usual.

I'm all for correction (and I'm delighted that the overall quality of lenses is growing!) and I agree with the slow dissipation of the Angel Blessing value, but such a precipitous drop is upsetting.

While we're at it, let me share what I'm feeling right now.  I was off to a good start with my one lens three weeks ago.  My ranking steadily climbed.  Then when we had the server swap, my ranking plummeted, like bonkers.  That got me thinking about word press and other means.  For 2 days, didn't feel the motivation to add content.  This is the 3rd day and I still have no motivation whatsoever.  Will I bounce back?  Dunno.  From a ranking of 300+ to 1,200+, how does that affect my adrenalin levels?  The only good thing about it is that for some reason, google is starting to notice me.  Go figure.

ques2008 wrote:

While we're at it, let me share what I'm feeling right now.  I was off to a good start with my one lens three weeks ago.  My ranking steadily climbed.  Then when we had the server swap, my ranking plummeted, like bonkers.  That got me thinking about word press and other means.  For 2 days, didn't feel the motivation to add content.  This is the 3rd day and I still have no motivation whatsoever.  Will I bounce back?  Dunno.  From a ranking of 300+ to 1,200+, how does that affect my adrenalin levels?  The only good thing about it is that for some reason, google is starting to notice me.  Go figure.

PLEASE don't give up on Squidoo due to a bump in the road!  Squidoo is growing at such a rapid pace (and that's a good thing!) that there are bound to be growing pains which can lead to frustration.  However, Squidoo is still awesome and in the long run it is just going to get better!  You'll see.  I know it is very hard, but don't dwell on lensrank right now.  Give it a few days.  HQ is working on it and I, like many here, have complete faith that they will solve the issues at hand.  Like Greek said, they are functioning on a four person workforce so they can offer us FREE pages and FREE ways to make money!  Let's not lose sight of that.

Hang in there and keep working, creating and updating your lenses!   Things will get better.

Janet21 wrote:

ques2008 wrote:

While we're at it, let me share what I'm feeling right now.  I was off to a good start with my one lens three weeks ago.  My ranking steadily climbed.  Then when we had the server swap, my ranking plummeted, like bonkers.  That got me thinking about word press and other means.  For 2 days, didn't feel the motivation to add content.  This is the 3rd day and I still have no motivation whatsoever.  Will I bounce back?  Dunno.  From a ranking of 300+ to 1,200+, how does that affect my adrenalin levels?  The only good thing about it is that for some reason, google is starting to notice me.  Go figure.

PLEASE don't give up on Squidoo due to a bump in the road!  Squidoo is growing at such a rapid pace (and that's a good thing!) that there are bound to be growing pains which can lead to frustration.  However, Squidoo is still awesome and in the long run it is just going to get better!  You'll see.  I know it is very hard, but don't dwell on lensrank right now.  Give it a few days.  HQ is working on it and I, like many here, have complete faith that they will solve the issues at hand.  Like Greek said, they are functioning on a four person workforce so they can offer us FREE pages and FREE ways to make money!  Let's not lose sight of that.

Hang in there and keep working, creating and updating your lenses!   Things will get better.

Janet's right. We might all be complaining right now, but all of us lensmasters who have been around for a while, now that you have to take the good with the bad. I've been a member for just over a year and I am still competely loyal to Squidoo, even with my ranting. Our dear devoted Squid Team are very small, but they work very hard, sometimes through their night, or weekends, off to make Squidoo work properly for us. This is just a bump in the road and things will get better. If you lens was doing well before, it should go back up once Gil finds and fixes the problem.