*The Forum Rules.
Yep, rules. Read 'em. Abide by 'em. Or your sea creature powers may be revoked. Temporarily, or for good.
1. New to the lounge? Get started here. Learn which category to post your note in, and create a forum signature.
2. Spam: just don't do it. Thou also shalt not fill the forums with multiple threads on the same topic or sockpuppet.
3. Thou shalt not flame, harass, denigrate, spam, malign, or otherwise finger-point and name-call at ANYONE. This one's a biggy. This too can get you banned.
4. Squidstaff love interacting with smart front-line people, so they stop by the forums from time to time to hear your ideas and share updates. However, this isn't the place to post bugs or solicit admin action. Please send those requests through our feedback link.
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Communicating via writing/typing, while much more comfortable for most than face-to-face conversation, comes with it's own drawbacks. Just like reading a book, anything you write is open to interpretation in tone, style, and hidden meaning.
Like formal writing, cyber etiquette, or netiquette, has some general rules that good citizens follow. From http://www.emcp.com/college_resource_ce … upID=5212, here is a short list:
Distance conveys a degree of anonymity, and as a result, many people feel less inhibited in online situations than in their everyday lives. This lessening of inhibitions sometimes leads people to drop their normal standards of decorum when communicating online. In response, good cybercitizens have developed, over the years, an informal set of guidelines for online behavior called Netiquette. Netiquette can be summarized by three simple precepts: Remember that there is a human being on the other end of your communication, treat that human being with respect, and do not transmit any message that you wouldn’t be willing to communicate face to face. Some specific corollaries of these precepts follow:
* Be careful what you write about others. Assume that anyone about whom you are writing will read your comments or receive them by some circuitous route.
* Be truthful. Do not pretend to be someone or something that you are not.
* Be brief. Receiving and reading messages costs time and money.
* Use titles that accurately and concisely describe the contents of e-mail and other postings.
* Consider your audience, and use language that is appropriate. Excessive use of jargon in a nontechnical chat room, for example, can be bad manners, and remember that children sometimes dial into chat rooms.
* Avoid offensive language, especially comments that might be construed as racist or sexist.
* Remember that the law still applies in cyberspace. Do not commit illegal acts online, such as libeling or slandering others, and do not joke about committing illegal acts.
* Be careful with humor and sarcasm. One person’s humorous comment can be another person’s boorish or degrading remark.
* Do not post a message more than once.
* Generally speaking, avoid putting words into full capitals. Online, all-caps is considered SHOUTING.
* If you are following up a previous message or posting, summarize that message or posting.
* When summarizing, summarize.
* Do not post irrelevant messages, referred to in hacker’s jargon as spam.
* Do not post messages whose sole purpose is to sucker others into an irrelevant or unimportant discussion. Such messages are known as trolls.
* Read existing follow-up postings and don’t repeat what has already been said.
* Respect other people’s intellectual property. Don’t post, display, or otherwise provide access to materials belonging to others, and cite references as appropriate.
* Temper online expressions of hostility; in hacker’s jargon, avoid excessive flaming of others.
* Never send online chain letters.
* Some e-mail programs allow one to place signatures containing text and graphics at the ends of mailings. Remember that elaborate materials take up valuable transmission time, and do not overdo these signatures.
* Limit the length of typed lines to less than 78 characters, and avoid unusual formatting.
* Identify any financial interests related to an e-mail message or posting. If you are selling something, make that fact clear.
* Do not send e-mail to people who might have no interest in it. In particular, avoid automatically copying e-mail to large numbers of people.
* Online messages can be quite informal, but try, nevertheless, to express yourself using proper spelling, capitalization, grammar, usage, and punctuation.
* Avoid chastising others for their online typos. To err is human. To forgive is good cybercitizenship.
A few more I would add from my 10 years of web experience are:
* accept criticism as well as you're able to give it
* if you can't say something nice, ignore the post
* make the least harmful assumption - assume they meant it in the nicest way possible
* make every situation an opportunity to teach and to learn
* leave your history with users at the door - every day is a chance to start over and create a great conversation
* short and blunt replies don't necessarily mean anything bad - they're just short! Don't look too far into what isn't written.
Forum conversations lose their sparkle when things don't go well, and the purpose is lost. Strong personalities can often end up monopolizing conversations and new members who aren't familiar with our Squidoo family can feel overwhelmed and left out. Let's not forget the true reason we're all here, which is to help each other and learn together. YOU are the one person who can control where conversation on SquidU goes. If it strays from our goals, you can take responsibility for bringing it back.
Everyone makes a difference, and thank you for choosing Squidoo as your place to take that action!!
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A nice read and posted at the appropriate time. I suggest these tips be made no.6 in the forum rules (or a link be given). This will eliminate the need to remind newbies and others about netiquette from time to time.
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Kimberly, this is so valuable, on point, and necessary for these times that I am going to sticky this one for a while. Thank you very much for writing it. ![]()
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KimberlyDawnWells wrote:
* make the least harmful assumption - assume they meant it in the nicest way possible
When in doubt I imagine the person is telling me the same information with a nice smile on their face.
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Kimberly: I agree with some but not all of your statement. We are adults here. I find it patronising and condescending that you had to give us a lengthy lowdown of how we should or should not behave.
I have not seen any evidence of racism, prejudice, bullying, or insulting behaviour on SquidU. I have seen mature, clever and witty individuals making a contribution. Yes, a handful can be pedantic and provacative, but fundamentally I believe we are all reasonable and helpful people.
I also understand that there can be others who may take a comment as a personal attack on their character, but as adults and mature individuals, surely that is par for the course.
I also understand that there can be individuals who may misconstrue comments, or sometimes give replies which can be misunderstood.
The SquidU forum is exactly that - a forum.
To a degree it can be self-regulated, and also aided by that demonstrated very recently with the volume of support given to a well regarded, but upset lensmaster.
I don't know how clinical or pristeen you wish this forum to be, but if you can't overlook the occasional oily rag, then please tell us - should we be wearing kid gloves or surgical gloves.
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Kimberly, thank you for posting this. While I have been a member of Squidoo for well over a year, it is my first online community and I've been "feeling" my way the entire time, trying to figure how it all works. This helps a lot.
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I'm really glad there is a responsible person around. Lots of forums are not lucky enough to have any. So thank you for your wise welcome!
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Great post Kimberly! First chance I've took the time to read it and appreciate the effort you put into it. The post is right on the money! ![]()
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Ye Travel Bureau (Paul? I get so confused!) is lucky he's never run into the stuff he describes.
As an ex-moderator who's seen it all... and oh, I wish I hadn't seen some of it; it's burned on my retina forever... amen, and amen, and amen!
I'm afraid that having seen tempers flare, discussions go south, and whole forums change tone over time until it's hard to right the ship... it's not asinine to give people communication tips in a new medium for communication that is really only a few years old.
We're still learning how to deal with the fact that (a) we can talk to people now almost anywhere on the planet, (b) what we say is remembered, rehashed, and chewed over for days, months, or even years, (c) we've never met most of the people we have serious discussions with (d) we've got people from wildly different backgrounds, age groups and perspectives all at the same cocktail party and (e) we're communicating mostly with text-only conversations where tone of voice and facial expressions are impossible to detect.
All those factors make it a heckuva lot easier for misunderstandings to erupt. Putting up a little bit of safety netting and making sure the walkways are well-lit are not so much patronizing as trying to make things easier for pedestrians.
I guess I'd better stop pontificating; I can't think of any more metaphors to mangle.... 
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Greekgeek wrote:
Ye Travel Bureau (Paul? I get so confused!) is lucky he's never run into the stuff he describes etc etc
Well said! But the post by KDW was pedantic and condescending. I stick by my words because I believe that such a post should perhaps have a specific category entitled "Forum Etiquitte" and those who fail to read it prior to contributing to the forum can subsequently be informed as to their error by a civilised response and suffer the consequences.
Furthermore I don't believe that moderators should behave like facist guards either - preventing the slightest aberration to be viewed - if it's merely to spare the sensitivities of others.
A small slap of gentle reprimand can be much more effective than a knockout punch!
As for such things festering and growing, that's when it is the job of the moderator to exercise their remit. There is more than one moderator on Squidoo, so if each one devotes enough time and analysis to their duty (voluntary or otherwise), I fail to see a problem. I for one do not want to see a moderator who is all things to all men - I want to see someone with a degree of self-confidence who can stand up and manage it with fairness, reason and good humour.
He or she will be far more respected and regarded because of it. If it's such a chore then quit. Either manage your forum and take control, or just expect posts by the powers at the top to butt in and lecture us whenever they see fit! In which case why bother having a moderator in the first place?
And before anyone suggests it - no I'm not going to "Monkeybrain" the question!
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Paul, I've read your posts and I must inform you that I'm counting about 100 characters for the length of your typed lines.
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N376 wrote:
Paul, I've read your posts and I must inform you that I'm counting about 100 characters for the length of your typed lines.
You had me really puzzled about this...and then I realised that you are a "Guest Editor"!
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TravelQuest wrote:
N376 wrote:
Paul, I've read your posts and I must inform you that I'm counting about 100 characters for the length of your typed lines.
You had me really puzzled about this...and then I realised that you are a "Guest Editor"!
"Limit the length of typed lines to less than 78 characters" ![]()
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N376 wrote:
"Limit the length of typed lines to less than 78 characters"
Ok. I'm confused. Squidoo, or maybe our display and browser settings, establish the width of the line, which will then hold as many characters as that width permits. The first line in Kimberly's post initiating this thread has approximately 90 characters. Wassup, please?
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Graceonline wrote:
N376 wrote:
"Limit the length of typed lines to less than 78 characters"
Ok. I'm confused. Squidoo, or maybe our display and browser settings, establish the width of the line, which will then hold as many characters as that width permits. The first line in Kimberly's post initiating this thread has approximately 90 characters. Wassup, please?
I assume the list probably predates the advent of decent forum software. Either the old BBS displayed full width of the screen before wrapping the next sentence, or maybe it kept going off to the right making people have to use the horizontal scroll bar.
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Thanks, Glen. So we need not worry about it then?
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Graceonline wrote:
Thanks, Glen. So we need not worry about it then?
Don't worry about that one.
Everything else is common sense for the seasoned Net surfer, and probably a good crash course for Forum Newbies.
I think the only thing missing is "respect your elders (active and loyal long term participants)".
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Kimberly,
Agree with every point, have been flamed once or twice myself, not very pleasant (elsewhere not in Squidu).
What you have to remember is that say you were speaking to a colleague and said something he didn't like because he'd misunderstood you, you would likely see this on his face and adjust/correct what you'd said. Online you cannot see faces, you get no feedback. Also what you say is likely there Googlable forever!!![]()
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N376 wrote:
I think the only thing missing is "respect your elders".
You're quite right! People are far to irreverent these days. We should indeed respect our elders. Sorry KDW and also to your own good self Glen ![]()
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A nice list, I'll have to link people to this on some of the other forums I post on, they have a bit to learn ![]()
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Thank you for the helpful tips about netiquette, Ms. Dawn-Wells! Most of them are commonly applied to everyday living so it shouldn't be hard following the rules here--but online living is a lot different so...
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ooops, I think we've all broken a few of these at one time or another. It's great to have them in our face as a reminder of what's cool and what's not. cheers.
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Your list is quite detailed and should serve people well. Most of the rules should be easy enough for the average person to live with, since common courtesy would be part of their daily lives. ![]()
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I am right now a newbie on this forum. This information that you provided me is so valuable. Thank you so much.
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